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Samples of feedback from riders on EVSC by kind permission
Great campaign.This issue is about making sure those who choose to embark upon a career of imposing their will upon others act in a fair and tolerant way.
If they are allowed to use technology to take over a persons will and enforce an action it is unreasonable to accept that it will only be applied to motorised transport.
How about linked smoke detectors than will automatically fine people for smoking in their own homes - sounds far fetched but its possible.
This idea is along the same lines as the ID card with iris recognition, finger prints, DNA etc. It is a minority trying to gain total control of the population in order to force submission.
Marc
What an attack on our civil liberty
WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!!!
Andy Ingle
If the people who intend to deploy this rediculous idea succeed then they will be accountable for the inevitable deaths that are caused by this device and must/will be held accountable.
Please ensure that this message is sent to those responsible for considering this.
Steve Seward
I wholeheartedly support MAG in this campaign.
What the government is proposing is not just potentially dangerous, it is also an infringement of our rights as free citizens - in a supposedly democratic society.
It is 'Big Brother' in a way George Orwell would be justifiably smug about. He saw measures like this as a likely step in the future years ago, now it is almost upon us.
Let's do everything we can to stop this ludicrous proposal before it goes any further !
Paul Dingwall
I have signed the declaration, because I think this type of control is unsafe and unwanted on a motorcycle.
I do wonder if on a 4 wheel vehicle, taking out the nanny state control aspect, whether there may be saftey benefits.
The problem is that whoever dreams up these ideas have no idea how fundamentally different a motorbike is from a 4 or more wheeled vehicle.
Tim Constable
Motorcycles are far to sensitive to throttle input at an innapropriate time, eg. half way round a bend, or passing other road users, to be controlled by an arbitory system that does not allow for the EXACT amount of control needed to operate the machine safely.
As a body, motorcyclists are required by law to spend additional time money and effort demonstrating our compitence in machine control BEFORE being allowed to venture on to the public highway and have to pass increasingly dificult levels of testing before being able to ride a full power machine.
None of which applies to the novice motor car pilot (I do hold clas A, B, AND C/E licencies)who are at liberty to drive ANY motor car that their budget will allow. A far greater danger to themselves AND the rest of the countries road users than the poorest of ptw rider (kinnetic energy) especially the phone using, boom box touting, mates in the back distraction brigade.
Spend the reserch money on some old fasioned policing and correct the balance of SAFETY.
It is not going too fast that causes accidents, it is travelling at an inappropriatespeed for the prevailing conditions and not being in control that does that.
EVSC - ISA takesthat control away, BY DESIGN.That cannot be right, can it? How can a so called safety device, be designed to do the opposite of all our training.
Get the designer to ride a bike fitted with the device for a whole year. EVERY DAY, Rain Sun Sleet Snow Wind in daylight and at night, if they can HONESTLY report the system does not cause any instability or other control issues and the have not binned it once, I might concider thinking about the posibility of changing my mind.
As it stands the day they pass the law, I will be buying up all the old stock machines I can lay my hands on, because they will be worth a mint second hand!
Dave Richardson.
bike rider = 32 years
car driver = 30 years
hgv driver = 10 years
I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't ride motorcycles telling me what's good for me when I'm riding my 'bike.
Until all MPs, transport researchers, road safety "experts" and other interfering b*st*rds have taken their 'bike tests and are racking up 10,000+ miles a year on a motorbike, they have nothing to say to me that will have relevance to my safety.
ISA may or may not be a "good thing" in terms of accident reduction - how do I know, since no-one's done a proper study of it? - but I do not wish to have some piece of electronics controlling my 'bike's speed at any time, reacting to an arbitrary speed limit set by some know-nothing bureaucrat who doesn't use the roads I'm riding on and stopping me making the decisions which affect my life and the lives of those around me.
I am already just a number, I don't want also to be a bit of road-kill just because I can't make my 'bike travel at the speed I need it to in order to keep me safe: I need to go fast when over-taking in order to reduce the time for which I'm exposed to danger by being on the right-hand side of the carriageway; I need to go fast sometimes to avoid dozy, lazy four-wheel drivers who wish to occupy the same space as me and my 'bike; I need to go fast sometimes to avoid deliberately aggressive, dangerous four-wheel drivers who wish to kill me. None of these things would be possible with ISA - therefore, I'd be killed by it.
There is a much larger philosophical argument here about freedom, but it's far too big to go into. Suffice to say: it's my life, let me control it.
Tony Berrow
I would like this speed control stopped, I have had experiences in the past where my bike has died or started to missfire which is very unnerving.
If you are in 'going home time' traffic, as it is very hard to get to the inside lane safely if you have just started or are in the process of a legitimate overtake or are on a dual carriageway etc. Following vehicles are often too close behind leaving a very small gap to try and get through.
I also had one time where I was accelerating (not excessively) around a large roundabout when my bike lost power momentarily, this made my bike drop towards the roundabout and hit the kerb of the roundabout, luckily I was able to ride onto the roundabout itself and keep control until the power returned to normal, I think this was caused by dirt in the carb which must have cleared again, I was only able to keep control because I was riding my XR600 trail/off-road bike which I did use to ride off-road with and was used to this kind of unexpected behaviour, but it would've been a different story if I'd have been on my large heavy road bike.
I believe this experience would be similar to the so called speed control system and I wholeheartedly support MAG in fighting this on my behalf, thankyou for all you have done in the past too.
Julian Tomkins
I have 3 main concerns with any external speed control system.
- Reliability. What happens when the system goes wrong ? No throttle or too much throttle ?
- Tampering. How long before the "hackers" can send out signals to control vehicles ?
- Haves and have-nots. It will be impossible to get 100% take up (classic cars, kit cars etc) so having some vehicles that can exceed the speed limit and some that can't will be even more dangerous.
Dave Sullivan
We must (MAG) fight the EVSC proposals tooth and nail - do not be fooled by the 'safety' arguments put forward by the ISA
This is another ploy by the govt and its agents to control us.
Lobby your MP and make him or her accountable for their actions.
Richard Vivian
Surely this is an invasion of a persons civil liberty by taking away his right to freedom of action.
Keep up the good fight
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